Remote Viewer #001 (US MILITARY) Saw This Coming for Humanity... | Joe McMoneagle

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Joe McMoneagle, the first remote viewer recruited for the U.S. Army's Project Stargate, discusses his experiences with psychic intelligence

Key takeaways

• Joe McMontagle was the first recruit for the U.S. Army's remote viewing program, originally called Gondola Wish.
• The program successfully located a lost Russian T-122 bomber in Central Africa using psychic targets.

Main topics

• Remote Viewing
• Project Stargate

Notable quotes

Space and time isn't real. We create it as we and make a decision.

Conclusion

A profound exploration of the boundaries between military intelligence

Transcript preview

Speaker 2 (0:00) What was Stargate? Speaker 3 (0:00) I will tell you that 90 % of what's on the internet, what people think Stargate was, is BS. Stargate was actually called Gundola Worship to the gang. It was to test remote viewings or psychic functioning to see if it was a threat. So anybody that says it didn't work is crazy. Speaker 2 (0:17) Who, from your perspective, is the most powerful entities on the planet? We certainly are. Speaker 3 (0:25) I think we're the only aliens on this planet. The actual entities that own this planet, we've never met. We probably will never meet them because they're so far ahead of us. Speaker 2 (0:33) What do you foresee is the most surprising thing coming to humanity? Speaker 3 (0:38) We're going to discover something that's going to get us off the sticks and thorns again. And what that's going to be is... Speaker 1 (0:55) mcmonigal welcome to the podcast thank Speaker 2 (0:58) you the other day you said something and i wrote it down and i wanted to talk to you about it later you mentioned that time and space is not real that's Speaker 3 (1:08) correct Speaker 2 (1:09) what do you mean by that what Speaker 3 (1:10) i mean by that is uh many years ago further back than i can remember almost 35 years The realization I came to because of the remote viewing is that space and time isn't real. We create it as we go. It's like a matrix. When we do something or we make a decision or anything in life, what we create is we create a place, which is space, and a time that that happens. And that time is purely our creation. But it forms kind of this web. It's like an intersection. And it's important because our share of the experience is very small. It sets itself there as a weld spot in that matrix. So over time, our entire lifetime, we build this matrix. And you've heard the expression at death, and then I reviewed my entire life instantaneously. Well, I thought that was total BS. until it happened to me. And it happened during one of my near-death experiences. And what happens is you find out all the other experience that came from every one of those decisions. And it fills that entire matrix in and makes it real. the entire thing. In other words, where that little piece was, we saved our feeling about it. That we find out the effect it had on all the other humans we were in contact with that might have had some connection to it, how they received it, how it hurt or supported them in some way. So all of our actions aren't simple. They're very complex and they change people. They change us. Usually it's hopefully for the better, sometimes not so much, but we can't really judge it until the very end. And that's when it's kind of like picking up a brush and going to a million paint cans and dipping the brush in all the different colors that that represents and painting your body with it. or your soul or however you want to reflect on that. And that's the permanent color you're stuck with. You can't change it. That's who you are. Speaker 2 (3:32) You were showing some pictures before, which maybe we could show them. It might not be the easiest. Maybe we could put it up on the screen. Speaker 3 (3:39) Sure. But Speaker 2 (3:39) the things that you've remote viewed for U.S. Army intelligence, is that what I'm saying there Speaker 1 (3:44) correctly? Speaker 2 (3:45) That's right. Is for a normal... Mind with kind of like a normal purview or relationship to reality. It would be absolutely impossible Right. So some of the pictures not impossible though. So we need to reframe in This conversation kind of a new reframe of reality Okay, Speaker 1 (4:05) and the way that you are able to access what seems like infinite fields or frequencies of information and it seems like you're able to in an instant Speaker 2 (4:15) kind of collapse this time space thing that we're all agreeing to and be able to kind of access any version of time space that you choose is that how do you describe what you're doing kind of right and Speaker 3 (4:29) kind of wrong how do you describe it the way i would describe it is what what i do is i empty my mind and whatever the answers are that i'm going to eventually see anyway i just connect to those the The difference between me and you is I can go anywhere in my lifetime and look for something and get it where you're going to be waiting because you think you can't. All human beings can do that. It's the reason we get warnings about things. It's literally a survival mechanism. We're born with it. And back when we couldn't communicate, it's what kept us alive when the predators out there were much stronger and meaner than we will ever be. That's why we cover the earth today. No other animal does that, except maybe bugs. You know, plenty of bugs, but it's the reason why we're still here. That we're actually the superior predator, just that many don't believe that. But it's true. Speaker 3 (5:33) The idea here is that it ties into what consciousness is. We believe that in the consciousness as we understand it, that we're the most conscious thing on the planet. It's only us that's conscious and we could pretty much do whatever we want to do as long as we're aware and try to be doing the right thing, I suppose. But in reality, in consciousness, that it's a consensus of all living matter on the planet. to agree that this is what consciousness is. So all the experience we are having is actually set in stone to a certain point. We're playing a part in this sort of theater of reality. And that's what consciousness is, consensus of agreement. When you stray from that consensus of agreement, you're doing damage to the... the whole reality of it. In other words, you're tearing parts of that consciousness in agreement, that consensus. And so you suffer for it for different reasons. Right now, I think a good example would be climate. We are totally ignoring climate, and we're already seeing the changes. Speaker 3 (7:01) Fish agree a certain way, bugs agree a certain way, trees agree, every living thing agrees to that consensus. But because we don't think any other things participate in it, we think we're the top dog. We run consciousness, but we don't what Speaker 2 (7:19) are some of the most surprising things in your career or life that you've been able to remote view? Speaker 3 (7:25) The first thing Within the first years when I was selected as remote viewer You have to understand this program was only supposed to last like two years When we found out the Russians were using psychics, which what you do is you find some people in the army that can pretty much do the same thing in kind of a sense. You bring them in, you teach them what remote viewing is and all that sort of thing, and then you have them use remote viewing to target our stuff. In other words, you get three to six intelligence officers, you train them. You let them go, they go out to the world, we target the White House, the Pentagon, places like that, National Security Agency, whatever. And we try to collect intelligence using remote viewing. We come in after about six months and we turn all of our collected material over to an independent agency. They review it, and if there's anything there that is threatening, they say, this is a threat or this is not really a threat. If it's a threat, then you have to devise a defense against it. So it becomes more involved. It costs money then. But normally, many things are not a threat. You just ignore them and let them go. It's not real enough to worry about. In this case, one of the problems we had is in order to test it, we were targeted on things that they had no answers for. And the very first thing we were targeted on was a lost bomber, a Russian T-122 bomber. It was carrying nukes, and it went down over Central Africa, and they'd been looking for it for years. Nobody could find it. Not even the terrorists could find it. And I mean everybody was looking for it for obvious reasons. So they came and gave that to us as a first test. And we had three psychics that weren't even members of the unit yet. And they all were given the same map in three different locations. And they put little circles on the map and they all turned out to interlock. And we found that bomber in literally hours. And President Carter even gave a talk about it in front of some reporters. And reporters said, how do we find the bomber finally? He said, we use our psychics. He changed our cover name and everything else. We had to move and go to different buildings and stuff. Speaker 2 (10:05) You were the first agent in Project Stargate, am I saying that correctly? That's Speaker 3 (10:11) correct, yes. I was the first one recruited. Speaker 2 (10:14) What was Project Stargate, and is there anything that... is different than general consensus or people what they think they know about Stargate? Is what people think they know about Stargate exactly what Stargate was? Speaker 3 (10:30) I will tell you that 90 % of what's on the internet, what people think Stargate was, is BS. It's nothing like what Stargate was. What was Stargate? Stargate was actually called Gondola Wish at the beginning. And it was to test remote viewing or psychic functioning to see if it was a threat. It's only supposed to last two years. The problem was in testing it, it turned out that it worked so well that we started getting inundated with targets that we had no answers for. And so for the next 23 years, that's all we did. And we were funded year to year based on our successes. So anybody that says it didn't work, it's crazy. And basically we just targeted problems that no one else had answers for. I'll give you an example of the first one, and it's important because people think you get a little bit of training, you can do this coming out of the box. And you can, but it's got to be something that is answerable in a very short way. This is my drawing of the Typhoon submarine. That's not a very elegant drawing, but what I and another man, Hartley Trent, said, he was a remote viewer in the same unit with me, original six viewers. We said that it was a new submarine. It was two submarines that were welded together side to side. It was twice the size of a normal submarine. I think it's 30 feet shy of the length of a Soviet aircraft carrier. Huge. And nobody believed us. And they said it was fantasy. Because what we were targeted on was a building that wasn't connected to water. And in fact, that's where it was being built, is in that building. So you Speaker 2 (12:23) didn't know what you were looking for. Oh, absolutely not. It's not like we're looking for Speaker 3 (12:26) some sea vessel. All of our targeting material was put inside a sealed envelope. So we were allowed to see the envelope, the sealed envelope. And they said, tell us what we need to know about what's in the envelope. That's Speaker 2 (12:40) basically it. I would think that in order to do that in my normative perspective of the world, you would have to tap into the consciousness of someone that knows about what's in the envelope or something of the sort. And that's not at all how remote viewing works. No, not at all. How does remote viewing work? We don't know. Okay. We have no idea where the information comes Speaker 3 (13:06) from. It appears to come from three or four different locations simultaneously. We have no idea how this works. We just know that there's an instantaneous transfer of information. And if the targets on Jupiter are the targets in the next room, it's the same amount of time to get to the human mind. Okay, so we since we have no idea we don't know if there's an acoustic record or if it comes from somebody's mind Or maybe it comes from everybody's mind. We don't know What we do know is that at some point in the future. I'm going to know the answer I will get that as feedback and when I know the answer maybe when I send it to myself in the past In other words, it's an early warning system That's why we were selected from soldiers that had been in combat, had a lot of experience, and were still alive. It's a survival mechanism. It's been tweaked a little bit to produce information. 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I empty my mind and I accept whatever my mind gives me as an answer It's how I process it the problem with remote viewing is We normally have this process where we get a few bits of data and we jump to conclusions or make assumptions What you have to understand is the way that we normally process information is what we learned since birth and over that long period of time in schools and with ministers and parents and all those things We learn to leap to conclusions about things based on very little information. In remote viewing, you do just the opposite of that. You take whatever the bit of information is that comes into your mind and you try to tear it down into parts and pieces and decide which of those parts and pieces are truly apparent in the target versus which aren't. And you can do that with your feeling or with testing. In my case, I call it tasting the target. I will get into a target and I'll do everything to include. Lick it, smell it, feel it. apply all my emotions to every single statement about that target to try to figure out what's real and what isn't. I save what's real, I just destroy or ignore what's not and I go back to the target and get more information. So you build a picture in your mind. It's more of an unlearning, developing new habits in the way you process things. Speaker 3 (17:07) Normally, it's an automatic. Like in combat, something says freeze, you freeze. You don't know what said it, where it came from, how you felt it. You just do what your mind tells you and you stay alive. Otherwise, you don't. It's kind of like having that bad feeling before the accident. or knowing, thinking about somebody you haven't seen in two years, and the phone rings, and they're on the phone. That sort of thing. Speaker 2 (17:36) Yeah. I did an interview with Rupert Sheldrake, who he did the research around morphic resonance, and he's done research specifically with the phone calls. I've known him for a long time. Oh, cool. Yeah. That's amazing. For a person like myself that has kind of a normative mind, there's the... Seen in the matrix where it's in order to I think bend the spoon you have to realize there is no spoon How can a person begin? to wrap their mind around Probably the release of the mind Speaker 3 (18:11) I Speaker 2 (18:12) would imagine in order to open themselves up to more than they believe is capable It's really hard Speaker 3 (18:18) and Speaker 2 (18:19) and I'll tell Speaker 3 (18:20) you why it's so hard what you know I teach it here and and teaching people is extremely difficult because when you put 20 people in a room The first assumption you make is that the wall here what you say, that's not true They all hear something different because each one of those people are from a different world. They all live in this context that they've learned over their lifetimes. They make assumptions that we're all sharing the same world. I don't. I think every human being I meet is a different world, and I can learn something from them. And so what we do here when we teach it... is we teach not only the viewing, we teach the monitoring, that's the person who interacts with the viewer, and we teach the analysis. Because the analysis takes part somewhere else. So the viewer never gets to meet the analyst. The analyst never gets to meet the viewer. And they have to understand that in order to be clear about what it is they're sending to the analyst. Nobody else teaches that. And over time, meaning a couple days, We walk people into scenarios where they're getting blind targeting with sealed envelopes. Nobody in the classroom, me, trainers, them, nobody knows what's in the sealed envelope. And we ask them to tell us something about it. And at some point, everybody in the class eventually does that. And by that time, what's happened, no matter what world they're in, they've just walked through a door they can't back out of. their understanding for reality has changed dramatically and they can't go back. So you have to be very careful with it because some people aren't stable enough to deal with that. Speaker 2 (20:11) What is some of the wildest stuff going on in government agencies and classified operations and things of the sort? What do you think governments are up to? Are we still doing ESP things and remote viewing things? Did all of that get abandoned even though it was so effective? It Speaker 3 (20:31) was Speaker 2 (20:31) abandoned. How Speaker 3 (20:33) is that possible? Speaker 2 (20:34) I can tell you why. Speaker 3 (20:35) If you're standing next to a remote viewer or a psychic, you're never going to get re-elected. That's the great fear. So why would you pretend that you support it in any way, shape, or form? We had people, I call them double talkers. They support you while you're doing it for them, but when it comes out to the news media, it never worked. You cannot expect the general public who think it's all crap to begin with. to understand what's actually going on in the remote viewing unit. People who approved our funding did, but even they didn't in many cases. I used to give demonstrations of remote viewing live on totally sealed envelopes to the very people who were making those decisions. And at one time when I did that, I had one of those elders, those elder statesmen stand up. and point his finger at me and say, you're doing the work of the devil and you're going to burn in the fires of hell. And he ran out of the room. At the same time, another man apologized and said, I think you're doing God's work. Keep it up. So where do you go with that? Who, Speaker 2 (21:51) from your perspective, is the most powerful entities or groups or individuals on the planet? Our planet? Yes, this planet. We certainly aren't. I think whoever Speaker 3 (22:04) brought us here. I think we're the only aliens on this planet. The actual entities that own this planet we've never met. We probably will never meet them because they're so far ahead of us. If you took an advanced civilization and a non-advanced civilization and brought them together, it destroys both. They're mature enough to understand that we aren't. Speaker 2 (22:30) How do you know