Jack Osbourne talks Ozzy, the Paranormal, and Construction + Dolly Parton Passes Away at 80

Adam Carolla Show

Jack Osbourne, son of rock legend Ozzy Osbourne and co-founder of SPARK TV, joins Adam Carolla to discuss his journey from reality TV fame t

Key takeaways

• The public's fascination with UFOs has diminished despite increasing evidence, possibly due to gradual government disclosure and societal desensitization.
• Jack Osbourne reflects on the cultural impact of 'The Osbournes' and how it transformed his life and pop culture.

Main topics

• Jack Osbourne's career evolution from 'The Osbournes' to SPARK TV
• UFO disclosure and government secrecy

Notable quotes

"I think the government's doing like a staggered disclosure where they're just slowly desensitizing us."

Conclusion

Jack Osbourne shares his evolving perspective on fame, paranormal phenomena, and societal

Transcript preview

Speaker 8 (0:00) Well, in this episode, Jack Osborne, all grown up, back on the show. Also, Rudy's got the news, and we'll do that right after this. Speaker 7 (0:09) Hello, and welcome to PlutoFo. If you know the name of the movie you'd like to see, just stream it for free on Pluto TV, where all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer long. Catch Anchorman, The Legend of Ron Burgundy. Speaker 3 (0:22) Fantastic. Speaker 7 (0:23) The Matrix Trilogy. Welcome to the real world. Mean Girls. Speaker 7 (0:33) That is so fetch. Speaker 7 (0:46) From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, Jack Osborne. Plus the news with Rudy Povich. And now, Adam Corolla. Speaker 2 (0:59) Yeah, get it on. Got to get on. No choice but to get on the mandate. You get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Welcome back, Jack Osborne. Man, I'm looking at the number. I always have the age of the guest. It says 40. And Speaker 8 (1:16) I'm like, Speaker 6 (1:17) that's so crazy. But I don't know. You haven't gotten old enough yet to just sort of look around and see kids. Like when I was old, you were a kid, and now you're 40. And then you'll also conversely see like women you had a crush on from Falcon Crest or Dynasty or Dallas or something, and now they're Speaker 2 (1:42) 84. Yep. And weird. So I guess the answer is we're getting old. Time Speaker 4 (1:48) comes for us all. Speaker 2 (1:49) Yes. Yes. Speaker 4 (1:50) I mean, I have a high school daughter now. Yes. That's insane. Speaker 6 (1:55) It's all weird. I don't know. Was everyone's mindset historically always like, I'm not old? I mean, I feel like old people used to be old. I'll tell you how you can tell. All right. If you watched a love boat. There are women on that show. There's the young ingenues, you know, the hotties that everyone liked. And then at some point they had roles for like, she's a school teacher. She's a house. She's a housewife. The actress would be like 44. She had her hair short and a bun. She's wearing a shawl. Speaker 4 (2:33) Have you ever looked at the age of the women from the Golden Girls when it aired? Yes, that's what I'm saying. They were like 48. Speaker 6 (2:41) Yes. I had a Speaker 2 (2:42) sad, I like to depress. I'm on a chain with Jimmy Kimmel and Bill Simmons and guys like that. And I, look this up, Andrew. I was going to fuck these guys weekend up. I was going to send them a thing that it said, I think we are older in. In No Country for Old Men, which is one of the greatest movies ever. The best. It is the best. I think we're older than Tommy Lee Jones's character. No. From that movie. Well, you want to freak out. Like, the captain of the love boat was like 42, the actor, when he took that role. Okay. That was a long time ago for me. Yeah. Anyway, let's not get mired in depression. How old was Tommy Lee Jones's character? Yes. Okay. Tommy Lee Jones was 61 during the filming of it. Wow. He's 57 years old. The source novel, whatever. Speaker 6 (3:44) All right. I'm 62. You don't look 62. Well, I'm older than Tommy Lee Jones was. When he made that old Speaker 2 (3:55) movie about a guy getting old and losing it. I Speaker 4 (3:58) think you're aging gracefully. Much better than Tommy Lee Speaker 2 (4:02) Jones did in Speaker 4 (4:03) No Speaker 2 (4:04) Country for Old Men. Thank you. So, Jack, who we, of course, know from the Osbournes, which is, I don't know. There's a lot of firsts, but first real reality? I mean, I don't know. Groundbreaking? Speaker 8 (4:20) I don't know what to call that show. Speaker 4 (4:21) I think it was the first, we'll call it, family-based reality show. Because there were realities. There was, I mean, real world, road rules, cops. I mean, they were all reality shows. Right. Speaker 2 (4:35) And I don't know if you look back and you go, that was good, or I wish it never happened, or it was bad, or everything above. Speaker 4 (4:45) I actually, there was a time where I really resented it. And now I look back on it. with a huge amount of gratitude. That's good. Yeah, that I got to be a part of something that kind of helped change pop culture and ultimately, you know, changed my life because I never ever thought I'd have, you know, the career I've had. Speaker 2 (5:08) And also people forgot what it was like to be on MTV back then. Yeah. And being on MTV was like such an incredible, Speaker 8 (5:22) exposure. Like everyone knew who you were. And I don't, you know, it's like, I don't, I never looked at the ratings or anything, but Speaker 6 (5:29) I used to be on MTV too. And I can tell you if you're on MTV, everyone knew who you were. Yeah. And I, if you're on CBS, not Speaker 2 (5:37) everyone necessarily knew who you were, or maybe the people you wanted to know who you were, knew who you were. Cause it was a great demo. Like totally. Yeah. I would go into a strip club. Speaker 6 (5:50) And my show was on the TV when I walked in. And that's Speaker 4 (5:54) a Speaker 6 (5:54) good demo when you're a young dude. Yep. Yeah. So because MTV is what every club would put on Speaker 2 (6:02) because you could watch it with no sound. Oh, yeah. You could just always have it on in the background. Right. And that's where it would be. Speaker 2 (6:11) You now have a new platform, Spark TV. Yeah. Speaker 4 (6:16) You Speaker 2 (6:16) go to sparktv.com, AI, for more info. And I know you've done stuff about UFOs and paranormal activity and that kind of Speaker 8 (6:30) stuff. I'm sort of open to anything, especially UFOs now, because it now sort of seems like they're here. Speaker 4 (6:38) Totally. Speaker 8 (6:38) It is a phenomenon. The phenomenon Speaker 2 (6:42) to me is that. I grew up in a time when we were obsessed with UFOs. There was UFO movies. There was UFO TV shows. There was always the same handful of grainy pictures, but nothing real good. And it was lots of UFO discussion. And now it appears there is UFOs and no one cares. Yeah, which is very strange to me. It is, right? Yeah, I think Speaker 4 (7:10) I've always kind of looked at it like. I think the government's doing like a staggered disclosure where they're just slowly desensitizing us. Because there's two things they're desensitizing us to. One, that they've been really freaking lying to us for the last 75 years. Right. And two, that there's things visiting us from another galaxy or dimension, whatever. Speaker 6 (7:33) So the government, if the government goes from... We don't have any income tax to here's 40 % income tax. Everyone goes, holy shit. But if they do it incrementally, if they just keep going, no, like the state of California will do that shit where they go. It's only 1%. It's all going to the roads and it's only for one year. And you go, oh, okay. And then somehow it's for 20 years goes by and it's there and the roads don't get improved. And it's these little. Bits and pieces. So if you sort of like I tell everyone you could eat. A Chevy Speaker 2 (8:12) Suburban, if somebody just pulverized it, made it into powder, and you put one scoop into your protein shake every day, after 27 years, you would have consumed. But you could do it slowly and incrementally. And it feels that way. You're right with UFO stuff. Just little bits and pieces. Speaker 8 (8:32) Now you have former presidents and people kind of laughing about it. It's in the zeitgeist. And all Speaker 6 (8:40) of a sudden. It's kind of like, I Speaker 2 (8:42) don't know, I think it's like bootleg celebrity porn, which it used to be a big deal, and now it's kind of like, eh, everyone's got something out there. Exactly. Everyone's firing up the OnlyFans. Yeah, so we're kind of used to it. So what do they want? And are they visiting? And what are they doing when they come down to see us? These weird headless ape Speaker 4 (9:09) creatures just running around. Oh, well, that's us. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. I don't know. I think it's, I mean, think about how many people are obsessed with, what is the island off of India where you can't go? And there's that untouched tribe that you set foot on that island. Everyone's kind of fascinated about that, right? And everyone's like. What are they doing? What have they been doing the last 30,000 years? I think it's that. I think they just want to see what we're doing on this, you know, speck of dirt hurtling through the universe. Speaker 2 (9:39) You know, the thing that I find interesting about people, I was trying to figure out why nobody cared. Well, I grew up with all these UFO movies and everyone was obsessed Speaker 8 (9:49) with there's something he's crazy. I'm not crazy. I saw it with my own eyes, you know, and now it's just like. I think it's our own narcissism. I Speaker 2 (9:59) think we used to be very much into something that was bigger than us. Yeah. And a UFO is bigger than you. Yeah. I mean, what, how much bigger can, there's a completely, there's another civilization that's somewhere that may dwarf your own civilization. Like you, you went from puny to nothing all of a sudden. And so we're so caught up. We're literally looking down at our phones and we're reading about us. We used to stare up into the heavens. Like we spent a lot of Speaker 6 (10:34) time, a whole activity back in the days, people just lay down at night on a grass field and just look up and just go, wow, look at the stars, the constellations and everything. Now we stare down at our phone. And if it's not about us, not interested. And I think that's what this is. Speaker 4 (10:53) I think, you know, it's very, you're onto something there because it is becoming like this almost step down from faith and religion, right? Because, oh, I can, there's actually pictures of this thing. And they're clearly more powerful than us. So, okay, what's a simple way to say God, a power greater than yourself. So it's like, maybe there is a bit of, it's scratching this search for God itch for some people. Speaker 2 (11:20) Yeah, well, there's a saying which is basically when God or religion leaves, it's not that people don't believe in anything or don't believe in something. They start believing in anything. So we have whole movements about the environment that becomes a kind of a religion. Race is kind of a religion. If you think about... We have to have lots of stories and deities and we raise these people up to certain levels. Politics is entering this thing. And Speaker 6 (11:57) even when you see Speaker 8 (11:59) people taking to the streets and screaming and sort of having these almost religious fits, Speaker 2 (12:08) almost like when they flog themselves, dragging the cross through the streets in whatever city they're in. It feels a little that way when you see an ICE protest and the Speaker 8 (12:20) woman is just screaming, there's veins coming out of her head and she's pounding on stuff, even to the point where Speaker 6 (12:27) they're ignoring things. Like the guy's got a gun, the guy's in a car, like you're standing in front. I see people. Yeah. Women running in front of vans, like trying to stop the van like they're a superhero. Yeah. You are not that strong, lady. Right. But that's a religiosity if you kind of think about it, because you're you're a human. The van's five thousand pounds and you're one hundred and fifty pounds and there's nothing you're going to do. And then they get knocked over by the van at some point and that pulls them out of there. fuguesate and they go, they get up, they yell like, what's going on? Speaker 4 (13:05) It's like, how did I get here? Speaker 6 (13:07) Yeah, what's going on? You were in front of a van. I Speaker 2 (13:10) was just at Starbucks scrolling. Right. Speaker 4 (13:12) Now I got hit by a van. Speaker 2 (13:13) Yes, and who cares about the UFOs because I'm going to stop this van. Exactly. Speaker 4 (13:18) I'm here, I have a platform and here's what I should, here's what I say. Speaker 2 (13:21) Yeah. Now, the thing about this stuff, I mean, the number one thing you see is that they move in a way that we couldn't recreate from a propulsion. standpoint. And I don't think China can recreate that either. Some people go, well, maybe it's China. China rips off our technology. Exactly. Speaker 4 (13:41) China is an amazing imitator. Speaker 2 (13:44) Right. They're not leading Speaker 4 (13:46) the charge and like creating Speaker 2 (13:47) new tech. No, we create it, whether it's golf clubs or fighter planes. Yep. We create it. They imitate it. Yeah. And they do it really well. And they do it right. I Speaker 4 (13:58) always say it about musicians. You have it like scrolling online and you see these amazing, like an eight-year-old Chinese violinist just doing stuff. You're like, oh, my God, that's insane. But where's the Chinese Beethoven? Right. Where's the Chinese freaking Guns N' Roses? Right. They're amazing. They're talented. They're great at learning stuff. Speaker 6 (14:23) Yeah. Well, it's kind of, you know, you bring it to an interesting Speaker 2 (14:27) cultural thing, which I've always had. It has nothing to do with Chinese, but I'll talk black and Jew for a minute. Speaker 4 (14:34) Oh, great. Here we go. Speaker 8 (14:37) Blacks are amazing improvisers. You go like, who are all the great jazz musicians? You know, that guy pick up the horn and who Speaker 2 (14:45) knows where he was going with that thing. You know, you think about real... jazz musicians really jamming and riffing and it's improvisational, you know, and then you picture Magic Speaker 8 (15:01) Johnson taking the ball down the court. It's like, is he going to go around the Speaker 2 (15:04) back with it? Is he going to fake like this and then do a no look or whatever? I don't think he knows what he's going to do with that ball when he's heading down court with it, you know, but he's a great improviser, right? But, Then you get to the Jewish culture. Lots of learning, lots of college, lots of lawyers, lots of doctors. That ain't about improvising. You're studying something that somebody else wrote in a textbook, you know. So you'll see the Jewish person ain't the jazz Speaker 6 (15:37) guy. I mean, I'm sure he exists, but he's not bringing the ball up court for the Lakers. So it's like, it's a weird. All right, don't put a picture of me up. He's doing No Country for Old Men and me. It's an interesting mindset. One is improvise, and the other is study and sort of replicate. Yep. And so it kind of makes sense if the whole cultures are like study, replicate culture, you Speaker 2 (16:10) don't get Magic Johnson, and you don't get Thelonious Monk or whoever. You're not going to get that. You're going to get people who can replicate it but not improvise and create it. Speaker 4 (16:24) Yeah, yeah. That's Speaker 8 (16:25) a good Speaker 4 (16:25) point. Speaker 8 (16:25) So I don't think this stuff's out of China, and I don't think it's out of the USR. No, Speaker 4 (16:31) it's – I have a friend who is close with the president. I've told the story a couple times, but he's close with the president, and he asked him, what is this? And apparently the response was – We don't know, but they're in the ocean. Oh, in the ocean. Yeah, which I thought was interesting. And there's been so much footage released from the Pentagon as of late where, you know, these objects are, you know, flying around battleships and what have you. So, I mean, I think the idea that these things could be interdimensional makes just as much sense as they're from another planet. Because in order to get here is, I mean... for what we understand about physics is next to impossible. Yes. Speaker 8 (17:15) Well, the ocean is mostly unexplored. Yeah. I say to my son, get in the water. He goes, I'm not going to the ocean. I go, why not? He goes, 90 % of it's unexplored. I go, yeah, but the Speaker 6 (17:27) Malibu Coast is. The Malibu Coast, the first 80 feet of the Malibu Coast is well documented. But, yeah, it's not all explored. Yeah, I mean, there's possibly an ocean Speaker 4 (17:38) that, like. Speaker 2 (17:39) A Speaker 4 (17:40) boat has never even sailed over. Speaker 6 (17:42) We had a commercial airliner crash and Speaker 2 (17:44) no one even knows where it is. Yep. That's weird in modern times. That is so insane to me. I mean, a large commercial jet just went to the ocean and never heard from again. And they have no idea where it is. Speaker 4 (17:59) Apparently, I read something. They're going to start the search again. They've got some fishermen picked up some piece of debris from the ocean floor. And it's like, I know where it is. So, you know, gee. I Speaker 6 (18:11) get, you know, I get the Amelia Earhart part because we didn't have satellites. And it was 100 years ago. Right. But now, I don't know. I feel like there's a real good excuse for not Speaker 4 (18:22) finding a big commercial airliner. Yeah. I'm right there with you. And it also didn't necessarily. instill a huge amount of confidence in me as a passenger on planes because I'm always like, is this thing going to vanish? Speaker 2 (18:35) Well, the paranormal stuff I'm interested in, but I have a question or a challenge for you. Go for Speaker 4 (18:43) it. Speaker 2 (18:45) So I know people that are from New Orleans, and they all will tell you ghost stories. But I grew up in North Hollywood, and there's no ghost stories. But Speaker 4 (18:55) there's a shit ton of zombies there now. Speaker 2 (18:56) Yeah, they're homeless. Yeah, they're drug addicts. Right, it's called fentanyl ghost stories. But so it's like a cultural thing. I just grew up in the Valley. It didn't exist. There was no old, the buildings were all built in 1971. There's no old culture. And then, but New Orleans, that's a totally different vibe. Speaker 6 (19:20) But I also started thinking, it's impossible for ghosts to be regional. Like, Speaker 2 (19:25) they can't just exist in New Orleans and not in the Valley Village area. Interesting story for you. There's this very famous Speaker 4 (19:32) ghost case, actually. I believe, it's definitely in the Valley. It might be Sherman Oaks or... Studio City, but it was in the 90s. This guy was taking these photos with a Polaroid camera in his house, and these crazy images were appearing, and they were supposedly messages from a ghost. It became this big deal where he contacted Polaroid thinking, is there something wrong with the film? They were sending him film. The same thing was happening. It's a wild story, and he never outright said, oh, no, this is definitely a ghost. But there was a very strange phenomenon that was happening in the valley. And to this day, it goes, you know, unanswered as to why these images were appearing. And it was pretty wild. You should look it up. I don't Speaker 8 (20:21) know. Look it up. Maybe there's something in there. Maybe we can find something. 1990s Polaroid. Sherman Oaks. Polaroid ghost rider. Found out it involves two Los Angeles residents. Let's see, who claimed an invisible entity named Wright communicated by causing a glowing handwritten message and smoky shapes to appear on the Polaroid photos. Oh, well, I stand corrected. There's one guy in the San Fernando Valley that Speaker 6 (20:56) found a ghost with a camera. He's holding down the Great One 8. I never ran into Speaker 2 (21:02) anybody. I mean, they were just boring people. There was no culture. Speaker 6 (21:08) Did you guys always... Well, Speaker 2 (21:10) you were born here, I guess. Speaker 4 (21:12) I was born in England. Oh, Speaker 6 (21:13) were you Speaker 4 (21:13) born in England? Yeah. Speaker 2 (21:14) Oh, when did you come here? Speaker 4 (21:17) We moved back and forth a couple times. We ended up kind of dropping anchor in early 1998. Speaker 2 (21:25) Early 1998. And what for you, what were you thinking about, like, as a young dude? Because there's kind of... Speaker 2 (21:36) I grew up with poor people and they were desperate. And when you're kind of desperate, you really think about food and you think about a job. And nobody ever speaks about a career. They just go, you got to get a job. I hope I get a good job. And then you literally talk about how much you're going to get an hour on your job. You're like, if I give myself a job to pay like $10 an hour, then I'd be in good shape because it's like 400 bucks Speaker 6 (22:02) a week. It's jobs. It's hours. Parents and the family, they don't talk about career either. They're like, you're going to have to move out and get a job. You graduate high school, you get a job. But if there was money and there was success where you could look around, your parents were really successful, then you'd start thinking, maybe I want to be a veterinarian or a lawyer or something like that. But I don't know what your thoughts ever were. Speaker 4 (22:31) My thoughts always were. Speaker 4 (22:34) Well, I'll never be that, you know, because I see, you know, your dad, my dad, like this, you know, that I was like, that's never I was like, I'm I'm terrible at music. I can't. That's not a thing here. And so around what my what my real plan was, I wanted to join the army. Really? Yeah, that was kind of I was like, well, I was in high school during 9-11 and I was like, I guess I'll just run this out and then join the army. Screw it. Really? Yeah, that was kind of my plan. And then we started the show, you know, shortly thereafter. Well, Speaker 2 (23:06) I know your dad was big into all the World War II stuff. Speaker 8 (23:10) And used to sit around and watch all those World War shows and all that kind of stuff. Because he basically was Speaker 2 (23:17) born just a few years after the Blitz. I mean, his neighborhoods were bombed. I'm guessing when he was... a very young person, he would still see bomb craters and Speaker 4 (23:30) bricks Speaker 2 (23:30) down. Speaker 4 (23:31) Yeah, they didn't clean up a lot of the bombed out building sites for years because, and I only learned this recently, a part of the surrender, the unconditional surrender of Germany was, if we're going to surrender, you need to rebuild Germany before you rebuild. And that was a part of the deal. So Europe, they left these... Huge sections of London and Birmingham and Manchester all blown up for years. Speaker 2 (23:56) Yeah. So your dad was born in, I don't know. 48. Oh, I was at 48. All right. So right after the war, basically. And then as a young person could certainly just walk around, see reminders of the war everywhere. Plus all the. Adults who just lived through a world war. Exactly. Not to mention just being firebombed and terrorized by the Nazis or by the German Luftwaffe coming off of France, which is a whole crazy, crazy story. So your dad. Speaker 2 (24:31) lived it and was kind of understood it and into it. That could mean that he would not want you to be in the army or it could mean that he wanted you to be in the army. Speaker 4 (24:41) That's a terrible idea. Why are you going to do that? You're an idiot. Especially because it was right off the 9-11. He was like, you're going to, you know. And so, yeah, it never came to fruition. Speaker 2 (24:51) Did he say what he wanted to do, wanted you to do versus go into the army? And your mom was... pretty managerial, right? I mean, she was like an idea person and she also got shit done. Yep. Like, so she probably had some thoughts. Yeah. Speaker 4 (25:10) I mean, I, I, I would help out with Ozfest and then, uh, I used to intern at record labels when I was in my early kind of teenage years. I would just go and, you know, whatever busy work needed to be done at a, you know, I spent a time at Virgin Records when, Not the store, but the record company. And then Epic Records. So I was interested in the music business side of things. And I kind of was like, all right, you know, if I do decide to go the college route, you know, I'll go to school for business and maybe go into the music industry type stuff. But, yeah. And she was very encouraging of that because that's what she did. I mean, she left school at 15 and dove right into managing bands. Speaker 8 (25:52) Yeah. It's kind of interesting, people Speaker 2 (25:55) who have a motor. You know what I mean? Like, it's just really a motor. It can be used or pointed in almost any direction. Sure, yeah. But it's just they got a motor. Totally. Speaker 4 (26:07) And, you know, and I think now it's like this thing of, you know, there's so much, oh, Nepo baby this, Nepo baby that. But, you know, I kind of cite this as, well, when is, so like my best friend who I grew up in England with, he's a Tyler. And he's a Tyler because his dad was a Tyler. And when his dad retired, he took over his tiling business. And so it's like, well, I guess my tiler friend is a Nepo baby as well. Because his dad was like, I'm retiring. Do you want the business? Speaker 2 (26:34) Well, everybody who's in construction is there because their dad or their uncle had a construction firm. Are Speaker 4 (26:42) they Nepo babies? Speaker 2 (26:43) No, because they fucking sweat out in the sun all day. But they are doing what that person did. And I am sad for them sometimes. And I'll tell you why. I know it's the building things for sure because I Speaker 8 (27:02) was a carpenter as an adult. And that's how I made my living. And almost every time I told someone I was a carpenter, they went, is that your dad's business? Because it's a real hand-me-down. They all thought. I'd go, no, my dad had nothing to do with it. And it was always kind of a surprise, especially being a white guy. Like, come on now. Your dad had to have a business. I Speaker 2 (27:22) had a friend in high school and his dad's business was vinyl signage. Every year when the Oscars would come around, they'd hang all those big vinyl signs off the street lamps or whatever. They did a lot of work. And it was a good business and a family business